Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots

About the show

A podcast about the design, development, and business of great software. Each week thoughtbot's Chad Pytel (CEO) and Lindsey Christensen (CMO) are joined by the people who build and nurture the products we love.

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  • 349: Better Information (Lokesh Dani)

    January 6th, 2020  |  Season 8  |  34 mins 11 secs

    Lokesh Dani, founder of Xopolis, discusses researching the future of work, democratizing opportunity in the labor market, and focusing on the user experience.

  • 348: Tailor to the Experience (Karen Rubin)

    December 30th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  44 mins 49 secs

    Karen Rubin, CRO at Owl Labs, discusses embracing playful aspects of your product, tailoring their marketing focus, managing growth in a B2B e-commerce company, the landscape of remote work, the complexities of building and selling a physical product, lessons learned from launching products at Hubspot, and building a team with strong female leadership.

  • 347: Deliver Better Services (Robin Carnahan)

    December 9th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  29 mins 5 secs

    Robin Carnahan, Director of State & Local Practice at 18F, discusses introducing tech into government as the Missouri Secretary of State, facilitating tech-education within the federal government, and the types of needs to which 18F responds.

  • 346: Empower Users (Geoff DiMasi)

    December 2nd, 2019  |  Season 8  |  41 mins 4 secs

    Geoff DiMasi, founder of Punk Ave. & Apostrophe, discusses his drive to build a CMS, balancing maintaining a service company while building a product (as well as the thought-process of spinning out a product into its own company), the Philadelphia tech-scene, and transitioning to a remote company.

  • 345: Conviction in the Problem (Alex Cornell)

    November 25th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  43 mins 3 secs

    Alex Cornell, co-founder of Cocoon, discusses opportunity cost, prototyping methodology, having design skills as a founder, designing for intuition, and being invested in the problem you want to solve.

  • 344: Facilitating Innovation (Heather Ames)

    November 18th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  32 mins 25 secs

    Heather Ames, co-founder and COO of Neurala, discusses automated visual-inspection, balancing research with deployment, the challenges of productizing AI, and finding the right product/customer fit.

  • 343: A True Movement (Pariss Athena)

    November 4th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  27 mins 45 secs

    Pariss Athena, Hiring & Product Team Member at G2i, creator of #BlackTechTwitter, and founder of Black Tech Pipeline, shares her journey from never hearing about code to viral awareness campaign creator, as well as discusses visibility, finding value on twitter, and life online with thousands of followers.

  • 342: The People Stuff (Jennifer Dary)

    October 28th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  45 mins 19 secs

    Jennifer Dary, founder of Plucky, rejoins the podcast to discuss the rarity of listening, what it feels like to have a six year-old company, and conducts a 1:1 for managers with Lindsey & Chad.

  • 341: From Survival to Growth (David Kaplan)

    October 21st, 2019  |  Season 8  |  36 mins 40 secs

    David Kaplan, head of engineering at Policygenius, discusses joining an established company in a leadership role, factors for long-term success, choosing Flutter over React Native, and challenging assumptions when building out an MVP.

  • 340: Accessible, Ethical, Inclusive (Cat Noone)

    October 14th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  32 mins 6 secs

    Cat Noone, CEO of Stark, shares an overview of accessible design, dreams for shaping a more accessible future, helming custom support with a small team, and her motivation to create.

  • 339: Process Goals (Andrew Steele)

    October 7th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  38 mins 16 secs

    Andrew Steele, Olympic Medalist & Head of Product at DNAfit, discusses providing actionable wellness utility from DNA data, goal setting, "blame culture", localization, and his time at the Beijing Olympics.

  • 338: Automating SaaS (Bryan Helmig)

    September 30th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  39 mins 53 secs

    Bryan Helmig, cofounder & CTO of Zapier, discusses extending tooling to small businesses through API integration, scaling, early marketing successes, and the future of automation.

  • 337: Outcomes, Not Outputs (Adam Scroggin)

    September 23rd, 2019  |  Season 8  |  42 mins 18 secs

    Adam Scroggin, CEO of CardBoard, discusses user story mapping, consulting vs product work, the importance of goal setting, product market fit, and his favorite tools & services for building web apps.

  • 336: There's No Manual (Chris Coyier)

    September 16th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  40 mins 36 secs

    Chris Coyier, cofounder of CodePen, creator of CSS-Tricks, & host of Shop Talk Show, candidly shares how a weekend project turned into a full-time business, aspirations for the future, and areas for improvement.

  • 335: Discipline & Creativity (Jonathan Cutrell)

    September 9th, 2019  |  Season 8  |  30 mins 52 secs

    Jonathan Cutrell, host of Developer Tea and Senior Engineer at Clearbit, discusses the history of the podcast, motivation for creation, learning to say 'no', and what it means to truly be 'remote-friendly'.

  • 334: Preserve and Extend (Devon Zuegel)

    September 2nd, 2019  |  Season 8  |  41 mins 23 secs

    Devon Zuegel, Product Manager at GitHub, discusses her transition from researcher to product manager, and shepherding the funding, communication, and tooling of open source sustainability.